Commons:Deletion requests/File:Scientology Symbol with LGBTQ Rainbow Flag.jpg

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File:Scientology Symbol with LGBTQ Rainbow Flag.jpg

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F3. Derivative work of non-free content. The "S and double triangle" is a trademarked Scientology symbol. This colorful derivative is not something Scientology would ever do... or permit. Grorp (talk) 02:48, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak  Keep. Trademark is not a copyright restriction. However I wonder what educational use there could be for this file. Yann (talk) 13:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This image
- is a jpeg, although it should be SVG or at least PNG or another lossless format.
- does not even utilise the possibilities of jpeg to display graphics well.
- only incorrectly implements the layout of the original logo.
- gives no indication in the image description where it has been used before or with what purpose.
- is cc0, i.e. has no author who acknowledges the work.
- is not used anywhere.
- contains no indication of what it could be used for in WM or elsewhere.
- is obviously a fantasy product (no documentation of anything) and can (since cc0 and visually very simple) be recreated at any time.
- is obviously intended to shame an existing and legal organisation, without giving any reason as to what purpose this serves or what specific action of the organisation is being criticised.
- has not yet been defended by the uploader.
In sum, the file (as it currently stands) appears to be disruptive to the project. In addition, it is a rule of Commons that there is no claim for an uploader that an uploaded file will be hosted permanently.
. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 08:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep This artistic parody of a Scientology logo I created juxtaposes the most recognized symbol of LGBTQ people, the rainbow flag, and places it in protest over the monochromatic, most recognized symbol of a church that holds deeply anti-gay, and anti-trans views and policies. It serves as an abstract illustration of the very real intersection of non-cisgender, non-heterosexual people and the community of Scientology adherents, many of whom are LGBTQ, and is meant to be used on the "Scientology and Homosexuality" Wikipedia page to illustrate the articles intersection of communities. U.S. Code Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 107 gives parodies protection for fair use as a derivative work. According to the US Supreme Court a parody is the use of some elements of a prior author's composition to create a new one that comments on the work and its purpose, and that commentary function provides some justification for use of the older work (see Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc.). See also the Wikipedia derivative work page. Additionally, the original logo consists only of simple geometric shapes or text, and does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection, and is therefore in the public domain. Pastelitodepapa (talk) 09:14, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep 'I am scared of Scientology' is not a valid deletion reason--Trade (talk) 22:27, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete The underlying image is copyrighted and is of something that's also subject to trademark law. Minorly changing some religious (or allegedly religious) group's logo by colorizing it in a way that pleases you doesn't appear to be a transformative use or to serve a parodic purpose, but is simply promotional of LGBTQ in a particular context. Commons doesn't exist for hosting LGBTQ-rainbowized duplicates of logos, of which there could potentially be millions. The underlying image does not consist only of simple geometric shapes or text, but is a comparatively complex layering/intertwining of both shapes and text. PS: I say all this as someone under the LGBTQ umbrella, and a long-term Scientology opponent. Just because it may amuse someone to mess with CoS's logo doesn't mean Commons is required to be the web-host for it, especially when the creator of this is trying to improperly shoehorn it into one or more English Wikipedia articles (against the w:en:Wikipedia: No original resarch policy).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  02:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: out of scope, regardless of copyright questions. Mashing two symbols together does not educational value make. --Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:28, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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